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to night. john: this week we have come to one of the most prestigious universities in america, university of maryland -- north carolina i debated former vermont governor about the role of government. i hope i convince them but i don't know. when everything it is important we have an open debate. and traditionally that is what universities were supposed to be about. open debate. but college campuses often are not. two reasons. some have speech codes of what you cannot say. some are so liberal libertarians and conservatives are ostracized if they speak up. you had a student here? >> 2010. and robert studies free-speech and is with fire the foundation for individual rights and education. hadley, you were not very political. what happened? >> i have opinions but struggled what i believe, when to speak up, and when to be quiet. john: the because of friends ? >> there were a variety of students that were very mature but others who could be loudmouth that overshadows the culture with a small group to make a lot of noise it can be intimidating. congressmen tom 10 credo was invited but
to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. the big story this morning, it is go time. in just 16 hours all eyes will be on denver for the first presidential debate. president obama will be making his case for four more years and mitt romney trying to convince the country he is the better man for the job. now, right now it looks like voters need convincing on both sides because in a brand new cnn poll of polls it shows a very close race. the president maintaining a razor-thin three-point lead with a month to go at this point. our cnn political director mark preston is live from denver right in the middle of it all. mark, you have new details on what to expect tonight. >> well, john, yes. there's no arguing, this is the most important moment of this presidential debate. in just a few hours as you said, mitt romney, barack obama squaring off here in denver. it will be a 90-minute debate. it will cover six different segments. most of it, though, john, is going to be on the economy. there's going to be three segments to focus on the economy. one
after talking to the teen's mother just moments family and friends of 17 year old darrell johns were shocked when a judge decided best interest if the teen without bail. e held here ((vo)) it all came down to public safety. a point the judge mmde repeatedly.... eventhough johns defense team argued it was bullyyng that ped he heritage high school senior to stab a fellow classmate. 12:15:27 i'm just upset that the judge didn't look and listtn toothe fact that :33 my son was just acting in self life :34 and this is not the firrt ttme they heard about since this issnnw a legal matter, the baltimore city school syssem can not comment bullying. i did speak with a family member of tthevictim... who tood e there is a lot more to thisscase... nooe of which hassto do bullying. joy lepola fox 45 news at 5:00 maryland is ssepping up efforts to fight domestic viole. violence.sevvral non-proffts were honored this morning with a 50 thousand dollar grant from verizon. it was aa emotional morning as survivors shhrrd their stories of abuus.... and the places they turned for help.congressman wil
. they need to impress undecided voters most. john king is at the magic wall for us. zero in on the stage where the candidates hope to gain grnd. >> the burden you would have to say is higher on mitt romney trailing in the race for the 270 electoral votes. they're debating in colorado, a dead heat. but the president has taken the edge in wisconsin, ohio, virginia and in florida. governor romney e needs to change this dynamic around because if the president were to keep two of those four, he would be almost impossible to stop. >> thank you. let's go to the debate hall where candy crowley is standing by. she's one of the moderators in the 2012 presidential debate series. the focus tonight on domestic issues, especially the economy. >> absolutely. this is parched into six, 15-minute segsegments, if you w. if first three, health care, then government. very broad suggests which would include any number of questions. each candidates gets two minutes to answer and then the rest of the time will be in discussing it. i want to bring in jessica yellin now. i know you've got an exclusive look at how
with 44. virginia has 13 electoral votes up for grabs. that's where john roberts is right now, live in fisher'sville, virginia. what is the event going on there today, john. >> country music star trace atkins will be joining governor romney and his running nature at 6:45 on stage. president obama won this state by six in 2008. governor romney trailing in the polls currently hoping to use his debate performance to narrow the gap. it was the first time the two candidates were on stage face-to-face, a chance for governor romney to one-on-one answer allegations that the obama campaign has been firing his way. one of them over this idea that governor romney is trying to implement a $5 trillion tax cut for the rich. he repeatedly answered that question for president until it finally came down to this. >> look i've got five boys. i'm used to people saying something that is not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. but that is not the case, all right. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. >> that is probably as close as last n
today, emmy darling msnbc political analyst and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine john heilemann, "the huffington post" washington bureau chief ryan grim, author of "the daily show" liz winsted and "rolling stone" executive editor eric baits. welcome to bizarre world. ramping you for the first debate each candidate is showering praise on the opposition in the hopes of lowering the bar for themselves. paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't kn
to thousand $2,000 after john's -- after a security guard is stabbed trying to break up a fight. they also argued that the bar is too loud. police testified that security cameras in the board did not work and the suspect in the stabbing was never patted down by security when he reentered the bar after leaving. the owner of the bar said the security did all it could and he was going to look into hiring private security and working with the community. the board found him in violation of the prohibited practices rule because of the cameras and a lack of the pack down and handed him the find. >> i am happy, but i am sad. we lost a great co-worker who has been with me for five years. but we want to work with the community. we will do everything we can to avoid any problems. >> the suspect in not stabbing is currently being held without bond. the bar can operate as usual. >> the o'malley administration says it has come up with a plan to spur job growth in the construction industry. david collins is live in the news room with an update. >> he wants to do this by raising the debt ceiling. raising
for the big debates. john kerry, by the way, will be playing the role of mitt romney. he's someone who has a lot of experience debating but also knows mitt romney very well as he comes from massachusetts. now, the big issue, though, is who will both of these candidates be able to sway in the debate? as we know, most americans have made up their minds. we're talking about a small slice of those undecided voters who are watching, waiting to find out exactly who will win. >> okay. let's talk about the republican side with paul steinhauser. word on the street, paul, is that mitt romney has been practicing zingers since august. >> yeah. that's the word on the street. the romney campaign won't go there, carol. all they're going to say is, guess what? he's spending a lot of time getting ready. you're right. i don't have any sound fm mitt romney like dan had from the president. why? he hasn't done an event in a while. mitt romney, carol, he jumps on a plane today, goes out to colorado. he's got a campaign rally there tonight. but after that basically hunkers down. you mentioned john kerry, of cour
stage? john gear is in the guest spot today. he chairs the political science department at vanderbilt university. how are you, sir? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> i'm good. i'm a person that believes that campaigns matter, that campaigning and governing are different jobs with different skill sets. can you talk about the impact of how campaigning is like governing and how campaigning is different than governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and then people who ran good campaigns. >> i suspect the example of someone running a good campaign but not good as president might be lyndon johnson in '64. he ran a very powerful campaign and won 62%, 63% of the vo
to john kerry a few years ago. but romney's people should have been smart enough to know this was happening. there was no presumption of that. they didn't get out aahead of the story. they didn't define their candidate well. there's two parts to this election, chris. one, is romney said a lot of people are unhappy with obama and his leadership and the economy. we accept that. he never made the connection that i'm the answer and solution. that's where the disconnect happened. >> mitt romney has been doing a lot to -- we saw it starting at the conventions. make himself more acceptable and help people understand him better. he's doing these direct into the camera ads. let me play one of those for you. >> more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. helping lift families out of poverty and strengthening the middle class. >> the president is doing the same thing, doing some of these direct to camera. when you see a million ads in a battleground states, do these stand out? how do yo
that terrified the d.c. region. police eventually arrested john allen muhammad and lee boyd malvo for the shootings. they were both convicted. muhammad was executed in 2009. malvo, who was 17 at the time, is currently serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole in virginia. >>> the penn quarter neighborhood in northwest washington is remembering a prominent local professor killed in a freak accident. police say rhett leverett was killed yesterday morning when a car jumped the curb when he was walking his dog. investigators say the driver of the car had a medical emergency and lost control of the wheel. leverett was a professor at marymount university and a fixture in the penn quarter neighborhood. >> the mayor of penn quarter is what i would jokingly call him. he'd be in his rounds checking on things, checking on other residents, and checking on the building. >> he was just a mainstay of lafayette, where we live. he's going to be really, really missed. >> leverett's dog beth was not hurt in the accident. she is now being cared for by a neighbor. >> 6:07 is the time.
the details exclusively from north dakota senator john hoeven. even when they say it's not, it's always about money melissa: first let's take a look at the day's market headlines. there was no celebration on wall street over september's positive jobs number. only the dow managed to close the week in positive territory. it was up over just 34 points. >>> consumer credit rose more than 8% in august. it's fastest expansion in three months. that is a sign that consumers are ready to make big purchases again. >>> one year ago today, steve jobs, the visionary cofounder of apple, died at the age of 56 after a long battle with pancreatic cancer. the company remains an industry powerhouse despite the loss of their leader. >>> now on to our top story tonight. good news on the jobs front. according to the household survey, 700, i'm sorry, 873,000 people found a job last night. last month. that brought the unemployment rate down to 7.8% for the first time in 3 1/2 years. the employers survey though reported a very different number, only 114,000 people found a job. that means, 759,000 people found a job b
'm martha maccallum. the romney campaign is joining this growing chorus of lawmakers. senator john mccain saying the administration's response was inept and ignorant and susan rice blaming it on a spontaneous protest was inexcusable. >> it's either willful ignorance or abysmal ignorance to think people come to spontaneous demonstrations with mortars and heavy weapons pant attack goes on for hours. bill: both sides are complaining. governor romney's team says the white house is still getting its story mixed up. >> reporter: democrats say republicans are politicizing the tragic attack that cost of life of four americans. the republicans say the white house is cover ugging up the details for political reasons. here is axlerod. >> the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. but when you are the responsible party, when you are the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believed. >> reporter: actually it was several days after the benghazi attack before the white house called it terrorism and that came aft
with john harwood. but if you were watching, as they headed in a 70% -- >> down from 80 the day before. >> right now it's down to about 66% in trade obviously suggesting romney got a big boost. >> mini flash crash. >> among our political guests this morning ready to talk about the road to election today, arianna huffington will be our guest host. huffington "post" obviously has a left bent, but it was declaring romney won the debate. ken duberstein will join us, as well. >> i was reading some of your tweets last night, john, and i liked your tweet. i tell you what i took away from the entire debate because i want to let you say it, but i saw what's possible in a life spent without any alcohol. i saw what i could have possibly been -- i saw how i could have possibly been able to talk if i had all the brain cells that i started with. and that was what i came away with. that i just wish in a maybe i had considered that path maybe of being, you negotiation life of sobriety. anyway, what did you think, john? >> well, romney considered that path and he took that path, joe, and he tried to pr
john king joining us from denver, the site of the debate tomorrow night. john, you've taken a close look at these numbers. are there any nuggets in there that may be good for the romney campaign? because 70% of latinos saying they're likely to vote for the president of the united states, that's pretty bad for romney. >> reporter: wolf, i've scrubbed the numbers, looked at the cross tops and in a word, no, there is nothing encouraging for the romney campaign in the poll of likely latino voters. one way you judge an incumbent president, president obama, you ask people what do you think of job performance? all americans are split on that question. do they approve or disapprove of the president's job performance, but among latinos, nearly 7 in 10, 68% say they approve of the president's job performance. look across looking in here to find some nugget of hope for governor romney as latinos describe themselves as moderates, 76%. conservative latino voters, you would think that would be governor romney's base, 55% majority of conservative latinos plan to vote for the democratic president o
on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house
the deal with john boehner. that's what the woodward book is all about. in other words, this is something independents love. i say clinton democrats are going to go for romney because romney knows how to make a deal by crossing the aisle and obama can't do it. >> here's where i agree with you. i think the governor of massachusetts showed up last night. not the guy who's been running for president for the last 18 months. he pivoted to the middle for the first time really and he pivoted hard. that was his best. >> was that bad? >> i think it's good for the romney campaign. >> he outfoxed the president. >> is it authentic and genuine is the question an does he have the meat to back it up? he was very specific on what he wants to repeal. he wants to repeal obama care. >> right. >> he wants to repeal cap-and-trade, dodd frank. he was very vague on what he wants to do. he didn't have a plan at all as to how he's going to pay for any of it. >> jennifer just told you all the things he said on the debate last night. the whole debate was spent attacking mitt romney's agenda which is a great place t
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. >> and i'm john berman. it was at long last it was safe to play and to watch a pro football game. the real nfl officials made their season debut last night. the crew got a standing ovation from the crowd in baltimore before the ravens/browns game. football and therefore life as we know it nearly unraveled during prechaotic weeks with those replacement referees. roger goodell apologized to fans for the lockout but insisted the league and the referees were close to a deal even without that debacle last monday night. >> i believe we would have reached an agreement this week regardless of monday night or sunday night or the past weekend. everybody was to the point of getting this concluded. >> so how did the real guys do? cnn's nischelle turner is live in los angeles. what did unthink? any bad calls? >> reporter: well, it depends on who you're rooting for basically, john, you know, yes, the refs -- the real refs got a standing ovation last night and everyone was breathing a sigh of relief that they were back on the field but you know what, it did not take long for the boo birds to come out. it
get diabetes or hypertension when they gain and some don't. here is john donvan. >> two sausage buttery burr ti- >> a number three. >> he goes to the drive-thru. again and again. and again. >> thank you very much. >> and why? for science. dave giocolo is a guinea pig of sorts. back up a few months, put dave in his car and here was the heaad he heard. >> this study includes a short term high coalorie diet and the diet program. >> reporter: offering to pay people to add fat to their own bodies, adding an extra meal each day, 1,000 calories worth of fast food and a lot of people came forward. like dave. a salesman. >> once i got into work i called right away and i tried to e-mail them. >> reporter: for what? research. >> you can see this is x-ray slice through the abdomen where you can see the thick rim of fat around the outside. >> reporter: the doctor wanted to find out why only some people who gain weight also get diabetes and hypertension and others do not something he could not research by feeding food pellets to lab animals. >> what you learn in rodents does not always trans
's lead in the nationwide polls is narrowing. meantime, romney has pulled even in florida. john harwood is in denver this morning and he will join us in just a few minutes with the other poll numbers and see just exactly how close it is. then we're going to try our own debates. at 6:30 eastern time, we have strategists from both sides of the aisle. democrat jimmy williams versus republican joe watkins. an hour later, former dnc chair and vermont governor howard dean is facing off against ed conard. irene rosenfeld, the ceo of mondolez international. the markets aren't to be forgotten. at 8:30 eastern time, we will be joined by jim grant. we're going to talk about the best investing strategies for the rest of the year with him. first, let's get you up to speed on this morning's headlines. over to andrew. >>> friday we'll get the government september jobs report. could be a game changer for the election. we'll get a hint of what may be to come. the employment report coming at 8:15 eastern time. poll forecasters say the economy likely added 155,000 private payroll jobs this month. we'll br
campaign battlegrounds facing job losses. arizona senator john mccain says companies have a choice. whether to rely on the administration's politically motivated guidance or to comply with the law. "i can assure them i will do everything in my power to ensure that taxpayer dollars are not used to compensate contractors who do not comply with the law." while the administration is betting it will prevail on the showdown, congress has the power of the purse. beyond this fight, there is also a concern this would gut the warn act and may hurt workers in the communities if employers don't feel required to give out layoff notices. bret? >> bret: emanuel back in washington. thank you. now to tonight's text to vote question. we thought we'd ask you the memorable debate moment. we had four. sr1 to ronald reagan to president carter in 1980. there you go again on democratic charges for medicare. text sr2 for lloyd benson to dan quail in 1988. he use jack kennedy and you're no jack kennedy. sr3. size in 2000. sr4. gerald ford's answer in 1976 there was no soviet domination of eastern europe. results a l
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what parties. -- watch parties. sheldon joins us live from johns hopkins university. >> we are about a month away from the election. a lot of voters we talked to seem to be passionate about both candidates. you'll remember from the 2008 election that college-aged voters were energized and excited headed into the election. based on the conversation we have had here, the same seems to be happening this year. >> the dining hall, it is never this fall. i think everyone is really excited for the election and the debate progressed more than seven it lasted as piled into the dining hall in the johns hopkins campus to watch governor romney and president obama. >> what is the mood on campus heading into the election? >> it is are more excited than usual about politics. a lot of times, political awareness is not evident right now, people are very excited about obama and ronnie going head-to-head. >> the party was hosted by the college democrats in college republicans club. it allows it to see were candidates stand on the issue that mattered to them. >> mitt romney and paul ryan can bring a hea
was treated by the nurse and taken to johns hopkins hospital. they are still talking to a person of interest. >>> the parent of a first grader is in some hot water tonight after a teacher found pot in the 6 year old's backpack. the child attends east port elementary in annapolis. it was found while checking the student's homework. they tracked down who they believe is the source. >> of course officers wanted to talk to the child's mother. she had two warrants for her arrest. she was arrested that day. the investigation is ongoing. >> it was about a gram of pot. school officials don't believe the student had any idea what was in the bag. >>> the orioles prove they never give up. they were down and losing 5-1 in the ninth when chris davis slugged one to the rafters. according to the ground rules, this is a home run. the first oriole to homer in five straight days since reggie jackson about it in 1976. they got the winning run to the plate but could not push it over. the final, tampa 5, orioles 3. itis fun and games to get caught up in the team colors. orange has taken over the town. new shirts
to describe the pathway forward for america we would choose. >> i want to bring in john harwood and e.j. deion, author of "our divided political heart." thank you for coming on. we've been hearing this expectation game being played, the other side trying to make the other one seem as if they are the greatest debater who ever lived. let's start with a reality check and strength and weaknesses of these candidates. let's start with president obama. what is the strength in this debate? >> he's very well informed. he is a fluid speaker. he has served as president. he's got a tremendous amount of information at his command. he doesn't mess up very often. he simply doesn't create the memorable gaffe very frequently, although he's had a couple of things with "you didn't build that" and that sort of thing. >> his weakness? >> his weakness is he can come off as prophesorial and arrogant and long-winded. >> how about you? what do you think about the president? what has he got going for him? >> he should twitter because it would force him into shorter answers. he's got the advantage romney has a bunch of
chief washington correspondent john harwood has made the trip to denver. what are you watching first tonight? >> what i'm watching for is how mitt romney takes advantage of this huge opportunity that he's got with tens of millions of americans watching these two side by side. he's behind in the polls, but not by an overwhelming margin. three points in our nbc/wall street journal poll. i talked to devine who was the campaign strategist for al gore. when gore lost the election, in the debates he said here's what's mitt romney's got to do. he's got to figure a line of attack that at the same time makes president obama looks bad, makes him look good, and press that through the entire 90 minutes. it's an economy debate. that is supposed to be mitt romney's wheel house. we'll see if he can pull that off in the right tone against a popular president. it's hard. there's always risk when you attack the president. mitt romney doesn't have much choice but to try to do it. we'll see where the help of jim lehrer, the moderator, exactly how he uses this moment. >> talk to you in a moment. whenever
roosevelt, privileged, wealthy, had the common touch. john f. kennedy had the common touch. ted kennedy and bobby kennedy did. nelson rockefeller did in new york. mitt romney does not convey that. >> that is such an interesting point, roger, you're making. i believe a lot has been lost whether you talk about wealth and affluence. it does not equate an absence of empathy as he says in the case of health care law in massachusetts. that does not void you of concern for common man or require you to have the assumption that those who are not successful, let's say, the 47%, are not wealthy because they are not doing something right and you are wealthy because you have this magic touch or somehow you worked harder than the guy who lives on the other side of the tracks. >> that's the problem. the problem with governor romney is not that he's a heartless man or a beast or a mean guy. it's his view of how people should succeed. everybody should lift him or herself up by their bootstraps, even if they can't afford boots, they should work hard, save their money, start a small business. if they don'
you are supposed to talk. i don't know what it is. john mccain was always gentle and nice when it came to president obama. i thought he was far too nice i didn't understand it. i didn't understand obama as well either. maybe it didn't register the same way. but if you look at what mitt romney is doing, i think he has to get it. he is a terrific guy, a smart guy. he's a wonderful guy. great family man, mitt. he has to get tougher with respect to president obama. >> lots will depend on these debates. if you look at mitt romney had double digits lost by double digits. got beat in two debates by newt gingrich and rose to the occasion. he only has three chances in this case. he has to come out of the box. there seems to be this fear about taking on the president in a tough way. you think some of this is race? when you were running you were putting your hat in the ring the race card was brought up against you. you spent your entire life helping people of all races in the city of new york. >> that is true. a lot of people came to my defense. i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a ra
in june, and joe johns looks how the rooting may have affected the justices. >> they beginning of the new session the supreme court will be watched for signs of strain between the justices or anything else suggesting things may have changed since the health care ruling which was the biggest ruling in the court since bush versus gore a decade ago. after the supreme court judge, john roberts joked to colleagues that he would find an island to escape the heat. >> the charm has been more than usually taxing, and some have called it the term of the century. >> three months later the court is back and there are no signs of it cooling down. >> the justices are moving from the frying pan into the fire, and they are tackling some of the most legal questions of the day. across the board, probably the biggest term in at least a decade. >> cases involving the contention issues of affirmative action, and same-sex marriage and voting rights and abortion are likely to come up this term which kicks off monday. >> there are some very exciting cases already in the docket and more in the pipeline that may -
or for this country has seen since lincoln. >> you're with the president. >> the frightened president, john. like little girl scared. i mean, mitt romney, talk about brilliant. two harvard degrees. the guy has never even lost an argument. >> he's no slouch. i mean, he's the president. >> smoke and mirrors. right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people just hope he remains upright. he's a big napper, john. big napper. mitt romney, 90 minutes awake and upright means big win for the camp. >> so jonathan, pugh had an interesting poll showing that president obama is expected to win the debate by a51% and mitt romney by 29%. it seems like president obama is more highly anticipated as the winner of the debate. do these sort of expectations setting games actually work for voters? >> i don't think they matter too much for the voters. it's a lot of fun for us to talk about. you know, as the comedy that you were just playing before suggested, if either one of these guys gets a complete sentence out, it should be a surprise to all of us. look, i think that it -- it matters a litt
. and president obama's chance of winning the election is now at 84.7%. joining me now john hiel man and krystal ball. when i see him out at hoover dam today, i think we are going to hear some sort of rachel like ode to hoover dam in the debate and the power of federal infrastructure spending and what it can do to this country and the economy. >> i think you're absolutely right. that is the core message. it's we're in it together versus you're on your own. and to that point, mitt romney still has never really come up with a coherent explanation, because there isn't one, for his comments about the 47%. so as they're talking about the zingers he's been preparing for this debate and how he's been practicing for months, there's no verbal strik to get you out of that box. and there's also nothing you can do to avoid the fact that your positions have changed so much from the primary to now and back and forth. so that's one of the things that you have to look at. it's not just preparation and flg good responses. some things there is no way to get out of them. >> the friends of mitt romney at the nation
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